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Author: Anonymous Date: 10/06/2008 18:27:21
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Please advise - Which class would a PMMA plastic, Tp(b) rated material relate to? Class 3?

Author: Date: 10/06/2008 18:27:34
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There is no direct comparison I'm afraid. The use of Tp(a) and Tp(b) etc in Approved Document B ...

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Author: Anonymous Date: 19/06/2007 18:01:01
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Is there a direct comparison between ASTM-E84 Classes A through C and the DIN 4102 classes A1, B1, ...

Author: Date: 06/04/2008 22:34:58
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The simple answer is no. They are very different tests measuring different properties. ASTM E84 is ...
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Author: Anonymous Date: 21/08/2007 15:51:26
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When supplying a fire rated door, is fire and smoke seal to be fitted all around the door or just ...

Author: Niall Rowan Date: 17/11/2007 17:26:32
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For intumescent only (fire) seals, usually only the top and both vertical edges require ...

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Author: Anonymous Date: 21/09/2007 12:59:34
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Can we add a decorative non fire resistant trim (to give a flat door the look of a panelled door) ...

Author: Niall Rowan Date: 19/10/2007 18:45:53
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Provided the trims do not significantly affect the structure of the door i.e. they are just pinned ...
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Author: Anonymous Date: 20/09/2007 15:06:03
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Can cable trays, clips and unistrut be directly clipped and mounted on to intumescent painted ...

Author: Colin Keeley Date: 03/10/2007 09:36:41
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The guidane note written by the ASFP concerning 'Overcladding of Reactive Coatings on Structural ...

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Author: Anonymous Date: 12/09/2007 09:28:31
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To be fire resisting is it necessary to provide an intumescent strip to a fire door?

Author: Date: 14/09/2007 15:52:56
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This is a common question. For a door to be fire resisting, it only has to pass the test which ...

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Author: Anonymous Date: 22/08/2007 02:17:54
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IS there a comparison between the Fire Classification done for building products under the BS and ...

Author: Niall Rowan Date: 14/09/2007 13:12:17
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There is no comparison per se as the British tests and the European tests measure different ...

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Author: Anonymous Date: 30/08/2007 07:31:46
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We want to incorporate polyisocynurate aluminium embossed duct panels for HVAC application. This ...

Author: Niall Rowan Date: 31/08/2007 09:34:05
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The class you mention is the panel's reaction to fire performance. Class 0 is a good performance ...

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Author: Anonymous Date: 14/08/2007 11:51:43
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Are unvented lobbies between flats and escape corridors essential on flat schemes?

Author: Date: 22/08/2007 16:17:38
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Assuming you are referring to what is termed "Protected entrance halls" in AD-B (see diagram 2 ...

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Author: Anonymous Date: 18/07/2007 15:39:47
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what is the difference between flame tested and fire rated?

Author: Niall Rowan Date: 23/07/2007 15:08:33
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Both these terms are misleading and meaningless.

Flame tested How big is the ...

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Author: Anonymous Date: 06/07/2007 09:07:35
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Please advise - Which class would a PMMA plastic, Tp(b) rated material relate to? Class 3?

Author: Niall Rowan Date: 06/07/2007 11:56:53
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There is no direct comparison I'm afraid. The use of Tp(a) and Tp(b) etc in Approved Document B ...

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Author: Anonymous Date: 16/06/2007 08:50:50
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What is EN14041?

Author: Niall Rowan Date: 29/06/2007 17:31:33
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The product standard for textile and resilient floorings. For more info on the actual standard ...

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Author: Anonymous Date: 19/06/2007 14:58:38
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Can a non combustable board (ie Supalux) achieve both Euro Class B and Fire Resistance testing of ...

Author: Date: 29/06/2007 17:08:56
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The simple answer is maybe, but not on its own. Non-combustibility or the ability to achieve a ...

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Author: Anonymous Date: 14/05/2007 12:44:51
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What is the difference between NFPA 255 and BS 467 part 6 & 7 Class O. Which one is better?

Author: Niall Rowan Date: 08/06/2007 17:02:04
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NFPA 255, or the Steiner Tunnel as it is more commonly known, is a North American reaction to ...

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Author: Anonymous Date: 07/06/2007 11:08:54
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Is MDF Class 0 as standard?

Author: Niall Rowan Date: 07/06/2007 13:49:09
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Standard i.e. untreated MDF is usually class 3 as are most untreated timber products. There are ...
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Author: Anonymous Date: 22/05/2007 18:07:46
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Please tell me if it acceptable to lock fire doors in a corridor? There are two sets of doors in a ...

Author: Niall Rowan Date: 06/06/2007 18:39:45
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In the direction of escape they should not lock the doors. Assuming they are only used for ...
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Author: Anonymous Date: 24/05/2007 16:51:07
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I am constructing a merchandising unit at the Dome. Amongst other materials I am using FR rated ...

Author: Niall Rowan Date: 24/05/2007 16:59:17
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You need to get the certificates - or more correctly the test reports - from the manufacturer. He ...
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Author: Anonymous Date: 02/11/2006 08:52:39
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How do we check whether a certificate issued by you is genuine?

Author: Niall Rowan Date: 22/05/2007 15:45:34
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Dear Ivo,

The only foolproof way to check is to insist upon an original version of the ...

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Author: Anonymous Date: 15/05/2007 16:14:45
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We know that to comply with the BS 476 : part 22 we should to install hardware items tested ...

Author: Niall Rowan Date: 16/05/2007 10:13:16
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We would generally only recommend products that have been third party certificated as this ...
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Author: Anonymous Date: 09/05/2007 17:18:34
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Can you advise on how to increase the fire insulation value of a steel clad steel framed building ...

Author: Niall Rowan Date: 11/05/2007 18:21:04
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There are several ways you could do it - mainly by increasing the level of fire protection to ...

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Author: Anonymous Date: 10/05/2007 15:39:55
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For communal areas in dwellings/blocks, do we need to use Class O paints only? (both New Build and ...

Author: Niall Rowan Date: 11/05/2007 18:01:44
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It all depends on the building in question, but generally in communal areas and circulation ...

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Author: Anonymous Date: 02/05/2007 09:44:45
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Could you tell me if BS476: Part 4, EN ISO1182:2002, ASTM E-136 & AS 1530.1-1994 are equivalent?

Author: Niall Rowan Date: 03/05/2007 08:54:57
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The answer is that they are all types of non-combustibility test in which a small solid ...

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Author: Anonymous Date: 16/04/2007 10:02:05
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Is B-s2,d0 to EN13501-1:2002 equivalent to BS476 Part 7 Class 1Y?

Author: Niall Rowan Date: 02/05/2007 13:47:38
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The first point to make is that there are no direct equivalences between the Euroclasses and the ...

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Author: Anonymous Date: 22/03/2007 16:37:11
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Our new buildings are fitted with Polish fire doors which have no markings and the certificate is ...

Author: Date: 30/04/2007 18:04:16
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You should demand from your supplier or builder documentation (that you can read) that shows ...

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Author: Anonymous Date: 29/03/2007 15:19:18
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If I wanted to manufacture my own fire doors specifically to comply for loft conversions, could you ...

Author: Date: 30/04/2007 17:44:14
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We could certainly test such a door and also certificate its production, but unless you are ...

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Author: Anonymous Date: 02/04/2007 16:43:53
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What is class "o" classification, I believe it is stricter than Class "1" ?

Author: Niall Rowan Date: 24/04/2007 18:34:32
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Indeed it is. Class 1 indicates a good performance in terms of surface spread of flame. Class 0 ...

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Author: Anonymous Date: 04/04/2007 16:38:42
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Does BS 476 apply to site safety products, such as scaffolding protection, or only to permanent ...

Author: Niall Rowan Date: 05/04/2007 09:38:02
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BS 476 is used in many sectors for very different end-uses. However, in the building field, it ...

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Author: Anonymous Date: 26/02/2007 17:22:46
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How does the temperature exposure history in the fire resistance test in BS EN 1363 compare to real ...

Author: Niall Rowan Date: 21/03/2007 16:33:00
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This is a very interesting question and one that fire scientists, fire consultants and many ...

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Author: Anonymous Date: 14/03/2007 09:15:31
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I have a first floor area constructed of 22mm thick WISA Spruce and it has the following details ...

Author: Niall Rowan Date: 15/03/2007 13:35:47
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In the UK there are generally no controls on the flammability of floor coverings, so you would be ...
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Author: Anonymous Date: 06/03/2007 18:04:27
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In a medium rise apartment block in timber frame, should the inner lining of the external wall ...

Author: Alex Manning Date: 08/03/2007 12:45:34
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It is assumed that the timber frame is constructed of an external layer and an internal layer, ...

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Author: Anonymous Date: 05/03/2007 10:03:14
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Could you tell me if BS 476 part 7 is the same test as ASTM E 84?

Author: Date: 06/03/2007 12:53:34
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No it is not. The BS 476: Part 7 test measures flame spread across a surface exposed to ...

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Author: Anonymous Date: 14/02/2007 09:51:07
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Can we use fire doors manufactured in England to BS standards in France? Are the regulations the ...

Author: Niall Rowan Date: 23/02/2007 23:41:23
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The short answer is no. The French authorites will only accept tests to French or European ...

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Author: Anonymous Date: 14/02/2007 10:27:27
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Does a block of flats with common parts, need to comply with the Regulatory Reform Order and ...

Author: Niall Rowan Date: 21/02/2007 11:05:53
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The guidance document on Sleeping accomodation published by the Department of Communities and ...

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Author: Anonymous Date: 14/02/2007 12:22:06
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Is there an fire rated MDF available that achieves class 'O' ? If so, would the fire rating be ...

Author: Niall Rowan Date: 21/02/2007 10:26:49
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You do not specify what you mean by fire rated. Do you mean a fire resisting MDF that is also has a ...
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Author: Anonymous Date: 20/11/2006 19:30:12
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Would my existing edwardian solid pine/oak doors pass as fire doors if U had the expanding strip ...

Author: Date: 09/02/2007 10:41:09
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Fitting doors closers and intumescent (expanding) strips would help, but if the doors themselves ...

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Author: Anonymous Date: 07/02/2007 14:53:42
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I am a little confused about the fire door certification system in UK. Is there any uniform ...

Author: Bob Williams Date: 09/02/2007 09:35:47
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The minimum regulatory requirement for fire resisting doors in the UK is for them to be tested ...

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Author: Anonymous Date: 01/02/2007 07:15:24
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A non-combustibility fest for a material (rockwool) in accordance with B.S. 476: Part 4 1970 have ...

Author: Niall Rowan Date: 06/02/2007 17:48:40
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A material that is non-combustible is automatically Class O without the need for further testing.
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Author: Anonymous Date: 05/10/2006 14:02:32
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How can i achieve 1 hour fire resistency to the underside of a mezzanine floor which will be used ...

Author: Niall Rowan Date: 17/01/2007 17:28:17
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I really don't have a straight answer for this. You have already ruled out the obviuous solution ...

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Author: Anonymous Date: 13/12/2006 14:19:11
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What is an M1 fire rating?

Author: Niall Rowan Date: 17/01/2007 17:00:35
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The class you mention is a French class and is obtained by undertaking the French Epiradiateur test ...
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Author: Anonymous Date: 29/11/2006 12:21:47
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We are proposing to construct a jumbo stud wall in a retail unit, height 5m, 1 hour fire rating, ...

Author: Niall Rowan Date: 05/01/2007 15:58:39
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We are getting a lot of enquires regarding MDF used in fire rated situations. Typically, the ...

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Author: Anonymous Date: 08/12/2006 21:52:00
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Log house fireprotection requirements. What are the regulations regarding fireprotection of ...

Author: Niall Rowan Date: 05/01/2007 15:57:27
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Log cabins or houses or any other form of buildings are subject to the same requirements for ...

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Author: Anonymous Date: 22/12/2006 14:47:58
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How do you calculate Hp/A for beams and columns for intumescent paint, is there a mathematical ...

Author: Phil Crewe Date: 04/01/2007 11:10:14
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The section factor is a measure of how quickly a steel section heats up. A heavy section will ...

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Author: Anonymous Date: 02/11/2006 15:55:31
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Is a decorative paint system defined as a wall lining?

Author: Niall Rowan Date: 06/11/2006 14:45:37
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Approved Document B (Fire Safety) defines internal linings under the functional requirement as ...

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Author: Anonymous Date: 29/10/2006 10:44:57
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If a board product that has been fire tested in Europe meets the class A2 - s1 d0, what ...

Author: Niall Rowan Date: 02/11/2006 12:35:38
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It means that it has a Euroclass reaction to fire performance of A2 which is approximately ...

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Author: Anonymous Date: 23/10/2006 10:08:28
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Is it necessary for a thermal insulation company to be FIRAS certified if as part of their works ...

Author: Bob Williams Date: 27/10/2006 18:40:39
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All fire stopping and fire sealing installation should be considered as specialist work and ...

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Author: Anonymous Date: 26/10/2006 15:49:36
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I am designing fixed furniture in a library. can you tell me how i might go about determining ...

Author: Niall Rowan Date: 26/10/2006 21:13:55
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If it is furniture you are designing (fixed or otherwise), it will usually be exempt from ...

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Author: Anonymous Date: 19/10/2006 16:58:38
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What is the difference between a material that has a rating of class 1 and class 1Y under part 7 of ...

Author: Niall Rowan Date: 20/10/2006 14:56:46
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A material that has a Y suffix added to its surface spread of flame classification demonstrates ...

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Author: Anonymous Date: 18/10/2006 13:50:54
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Where can I get testing carried out to ASTM E 84, the Steiner Tunnel?

Author: Niall Rowan Date: 18/10/2006 14:01:39
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Bodycote Materials Testing Canada Inc. can perform this test, contact details are as ...

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Author: Anonymous Date: 29/09/2006 14:58:37
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What does bsen number stand for?

Author: Niall Rowan Date: 04/10/2006 17:26:02
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BS stands for 'British Standard'. British Standards are produced by the British Standards ...

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Author: Anonymous Date: 15/09/2006 10:40:26
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Could you please clarify the fire performance of typical mdf sheets? it's easy to undertsand the ...

Author: Niall Rowan Date: 15/09/2006 12:26:47
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What do you mean by 'fire rating'? If you mean reaction to fire performance, then the fire rating ...
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Author: Anonymous Date: 06/09/2006 10:37:52
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we are looking to install a pvc illuminated sign into a shopping centre. The material has a French ...

Author: Janet Murrell Date: 08/09/2006 12:06:05
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The classification M2 used in France is very loosely similar to a Class 2 in this country ...

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Author: Anonymous Date: 05/07/2006 14:32:01
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When does BS EN 1634 come into force? It mentions on your website that it would run in parallel ...

Author: Niall Rowan Date: 24/08/2006 17:25:19
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BS EN 1634 'came into force' in 2002. That is to say it was recognised by our building ...

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Author: Anonymous Date: 07/08/2006 07:37:15
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What are the differences in EN BS/DIN 13501 and BS 476 Part 7? Are they equivalent?

Author: Niall Rowan Date: 24/08/2006 17:25:11
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BS EN 13501 or DIN EN 13501 are identical European standards for the classification of products ...

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Author: Anonymous Date: 19/08/2006 16:36:28
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If a timber partioned wall has 10 flammable layers of paint, can it be upgraded to class O using a ...

Author: Janet Murrell Date: 24/08/2006 17:24:40
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The simple answer to this is most definitely no! In general, most paints are tested as single ...

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Author: Anonymous Date: 21/07/2006 10:53:12
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Hi there What is the difference between class 1 and AA? when considering roofing material

Author: Date: 24/08/2006 10:53:43
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Class 1 refers to BS 476: Part 7, the surface spread of flame test. AA is a class from the BS 476: ...
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Author: Anonymous Date: 08/08/2006 10:08:49
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Do we achieve 1/2 hour fire rating to a stud partition using 70mm 'C' stud and sheeted one side ...

Author: Date: 17/08/2006 11:59:38
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The British Gyspum White Book is now available on-line and gives the answer to your ...
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Author: Anonymous Date: 16/08/2006 15:18:00
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If a material achieves the classification B2 under DIN 4101 Pt 1 does that mean it meets the ...

Author: Niall Rowan Date: 16/08/2006 15:59:26
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I am afraid it does not. In the first instance there is no direct table of equivalences between ...
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Author: Anonymous Date: 10/08/2006 09:53:05
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Is there a professional designation for fire engineers, such as Chartered Fire Engineer?

Author: Jon Pagan Date: 16/08/2006 13:42:39
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Yes, the Institute of Fire Engineers can give Chartered Engineer status to engineers who have the ...
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Author: Anonymous Date: 02/08/2006 14:55:59
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You have compared the French calls M1 rating with UK class 0, what temperture would this resist and ...

Author: Niall Rowan Date: 15/08/2006 12:49:44
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The British rating Class 0 and the French rating M1 are achieved by undertaking various reaction to ...
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Author: Anonymous Date: 06/06/2006 10:48:01
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What is the requirement of material to meet Fire Spread rating M1? any equivalent classification ...

Author: Niall Rowan Date: 21/06/2006 14:03:08
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The class you mention is a French class and is obtained by undertaking the French Epiradiateur test ...
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Author: Anonymous Date: 22/05/2006 22:25:17
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I have a French product for coating expanded polystyrene EPS that claims an M1 fire rating. Does ...

Author: Date: 24/05/2006 18:18:45
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I'm afraid it does not. The tests used in the USA and those used in France measure fundamentally ...
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Author: Anonymous Date: 24/05/2006 14:05:50
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Which is the correct test procedure for fire resistant grills (with intumescent material) ? EN ...

Author: Niall Rowan Date: 24/05/2006 18:03:31
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This is an interesting question. You are referring to a fire damper which uses intumescent as the ...
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Author: Anonymous Date: 27/03/2006 13:00:20
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I am trying to ascertain the period of fire resistance of an existing 9mm thick asbestos ceiling ...

Author: Niall Rowan Date: 03/05/2006 18:32:34
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As far as we are aware, there is no information in the public domain which will give you an ...
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Author: Anonymous Date: 02/11/2005 12:12:45
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How do pvc and hdpe differ in their reaction to accidental domestic fires, particularly is their a ...

Author: Niall Rowan Date: 03/05/2006 18:31:49
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A brief explanation is as follows...

PVC

pvc or polyvinylchloride is widely ...

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Author: Anonymous Date: 24/04/2006 14:29:01
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Will a Class 0 MDF board still provide a Class 0 performance when faced with a decorative wood ...

Author: Niall Rowan Date: 25/04/2006 14:54:38
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The performance of a composite panel such as you describe depends on the combined performance of ...

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Author: Anonymous Date: 30/03/2006 04:53:52
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What do the codes TT, ITT, MM, IMM, ITM, ITC, TM in the section of "Approved door type" mean?

Author: Niall Rowan Date: 20/04/2006 16:36:33
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The first (optional) digit is whether the door has Intumescent seals 'I' means it has, nothing ...

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Author: Anonymous Date: 17/03/2006 11:51:01
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Where can I get a copy of the standard hydrocarbon fire heating curve and the cellulosic fire ...

Author: Niall Rowan Date: 20/04/2006 16:24:28
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You can get both of these curves in the European Standard EN 1363 Fire resistance tests Part 2: ...
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Author: Anonymous Date: 13/02/2006 10:37:41
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How can I compare results for a material tested to BS476 part 7 with another material tested to ...

Author: Niall Rowan Date: 13/02/2006 12:33:38
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Unfortunately, you can't. This is because the test procedures are very different and measure ...
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Author: Anonymous Date: 29/01/2006 17:33:06
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Do you have a register that I can view online? I would like to view test certificates for products ...

Author: Niall Rowan Date: 10/02/2006 09:44:40
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To view the CERTIFIRE Register, go to 'certifying' then 'CERTIFIRE' then click on the link 'To view ...
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Author: Anonymous Date: 13/12/2005 15:30:16
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Please confirm if half hour fire resistence can be achieved with the use of MDF and if so, what ...

Author: Niall Rowan Date: 02/02/2006 18:04:10
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It depends on what you are looking at. Do you mean upgrading a door by putting an MDF facing on ...

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Author: Anonymous Date: 14/03/2005 08:11:06
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If I have the number of a test certificate, can I have a copy of it?

Author: Niall Rowan Date: 10/01/2006 17:34:52
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There are two issues to deal with here; the type of document you are referring to and your right ...

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Author: Anonymous Date: 08/12/2005 16:02:33
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Is there a ready reference of comparisons between BS476 pt 6 and DIN 4102? Specifically I need to ...

Author: Niall Rowan Date: 10/01/2006 17:20:45
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It is very difficult to make comparisons between different national tests - especially 'reaction ...

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Author: Anonymous Date: 19/10/2005 14:51:09
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We have made some desks from a Class 1 MDF. This then has a wood micro-veneer on top, followed by ...

Author: Niall Rowan Date: 21/10/2005 15:34:08
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Unfortunately, it probably does need to be retested. The class 1 MDF may well achieve class 1 ...
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Author: Anonymous Date: 30/08/2005 12:08:39
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Would putting 150mm rockwool insulation mat laid directly above a mineral fibre fire rated ceiling ...

Author: Dominic Hankinson Date: 08/09/2005 09:41:05